13:55:15 From  Dave Dougherty (CACOR)  to  Everyone:
	Q: Have you just blown "if you can't measure it, you can't manage it" out of the water?

13:57:07 From  Ted Manning  to  Everyone:
	I THINK WE COULD CHANGE THE STATEMENT TO: IF YOU CAN'T PERCEIVE, IT YOU CAN'T VALUE IT...HOW?

14:03:27 From  Art Hunter - CACOR  to  Everyone:
	Q:  Is there no room for quantitative more as a good idea?   For example, I strive to reduce energy consumption--more saving of energy is a good thing.

14:08:23 From  Ted Manning  to  Everyone:
	Can we use numbers to define and discuss what we mean bu enough, or to define levels of necessary effort to redress the mess in which we find ourselves?

14:27:02 From  Peter Bulkowski  to  Everyone:
	Do your "sustainability" and "new" values system provide for eight to ten billion people?

14:30:05 From  Dave Dougherty (CACOR)  to  Everyone:
	Q. As I have, have you reached the conclusion that employment is a modern form of slavery?

14:36:30 From  John Meyer  to  Everyone:
	Point/maybe question: When I use the term "Pearl Harbour Moment," I mean an event that allows us to change almost instantaneously and deal with the real threat.  However, will we instead experience a "9/11 Moment" where a huge blow triggers a completely wrong response.  "We, the West, invaded countries and triggered wars in countries which had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.  When crises come will we be able to identify the causes well enough to attack the real problems?