13:46:22 From  Bill Pugsley  to  Everyone:
	Question: What implications are there in this section of the Environment Minister’s Mandate letter

	https://pm.gc.ca/en/mandate-letters/2021/12/16/minister-environment-and-climate-change-mandate-letter

	“Recognize the “right to a healthy environment” in federal law and introduce legislation to require the development of an environmental justice strategy and the examination of the link between race, socio-economic status and exposure to environmental risk.”

14:12:46 From  Dave Dougherty  to  Everyone:
	How might joint and several liability pertain to causation?

14:14:57 From  Vic Buxton  to  Everyone:
	I have a question regarding the legal rights of civil servants that are accused of hurting business interests by offering anticipated environment measures to the public.  I was under such a situation for many years.

14:15:46 From  Geoff Strong  to  Everyone:
	Could an organization take the federal govt to court because it used 'deception' in its climate plan?  Specifically promising 40% reduction in Canadian emissions when it means only "from federal facilities and conventional fleets."

14:16:30 From  John Hollins  to  Everyone:
	Since Greta emerged on the scene, combined with	awareness of extreme weather, how if at all would the greater public/political awareness trickle into the legal system?

14:21:00 From  John Meyer (MAyer)  to  Everyone:
	Case of provincial and federal governments forcing growth down the throat of local governments without any environmental assessment.  Both environmental analysis and democratic processes are completely evaded.

14:31:35 From  Bruce Fanjoy  to  Everyone:
	How much legal weight do rulings outside of Canada have on Canadian courts?

14:31:58 From  Dave Dougherty  to  Everyone:
	For future laws and amendments, could justiciability be specifically included in the text?

14:34:41 From  Meg Sears  to  Everyone:
	Last Parliament, C-28 (CEPA amendments) had Right to a Healthy Environment in the preamble.  Would this be sufficient or should it be in the legislation itself?  What would that look like?

14:35:04 From  Geoff Strong  to  Everyone:
	How can CEPA (etc.) list CO2 as a toxic substance when it is essential to life on Earth?  For photosynthesis and for helping maintain the climate at a reasonable level (in the absence of excess human emissions).

14:36:18 From  Peter Meincke  to  Everyone:
	Could the govt be sued for subsidizing fossil fuels?

14:41:55 From  Ted Manning  to  Everyone:
	Can class action suits work.  What factors are important if success is to be possible?  When I was with Environment Canada, there was a writ of mandamus brought against an ADM for pollution caused by EC/government factilities.

15:06:19 From  Dave Dougherty  to  Everyone:
	People breathe out carbon dioxide...because it is toxic in the body.
Clearly, carbon dioxide can be a pollutant.  It can, in fact, make you sick and even kill you.  That is aside from effects on the climate.

15:08:26 From  Bill Blann  to  Everyone:
	It is all in the concentration of the material.  CO2 is just part of our natural equilibria that have to be maintained in balance.  It’s not completely eliminated.

15:14:13 From  Meg Sears  to  Everyone:
	Our group has put some thought into aspects of the science that would operationalize a Right to a Healthy Environment in CEPA.  We have an editable summary letter that will be sent to ministers and critics of health and environment...for your consideration. 

	https://preventcancernow.ca/update-and-strengthen-canadas-key-chemicals-laws/

15:17:12 From  Dave Dougherty  to  Everyone:
	https://publicdomainvectors.org/en/free-clipart/Carbon-dioxide-toxicity-chart/81829.html

15:20:32 From  Dave Dougherty  to  Everyone:
	https://www.fsis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media_file/2020-08/Carbon-Dioxide.pdf

15:20:46 From  John Hollins  to  Everyone:
	All things are poisons, for there is nothing without poisonous qualities.   It is only the dose which makes a thing a poison.
	
		Paracelsus, 16th Century Swiss physician and philosopher.

	[Paracelsus was also an alchemist and was referring to food when he expounded on the dose amking the posion.  Ed.]