13:53:39 From gord to Everyone : this is very informative, I tried as a Green candidate to say that Alberta, and thus Canada, had a huge problem not realizing that the days of the tar sands was over and that unless we realize this big PAIN is coming our way [ie. Quebec got most of the alberta transfer payments] - for ALL of us... I do not think that pain is now avoidable as we have dithered too long. so sad. 14:00:19 From Edward MANNING to Everyone : What is revealing is that in Alberta many get up every morning fixated on the wrongs the East are doing to them while a few steps west, British Columbians get up every morning paying no attention to anything which happens on the other side of the Rockies. 14:01:37 From John Meyer to Everyone : Is this "Alberta First" movement in effect a proxy for the oil industry? The money losing oil industry in fact. So I have a question. 14:01:45 From gord to Everyone : too true, BC is so different 14:06:57 From gord to Everyone : I think it is about change... which is hard. the oil game is over and they cannot see another way to live and earn money - it is thus also about identity - oil has become who we are 14:12:07 From joseph ingram to Everyone : It is obvious that these people should move to Texas where the leader of the state GOP is advocating much the same thing, including controlling immigration. 14:15:45 From gord to Everyone : pierre polievre is clueless, but he does what he does because it works, whatever resonates with people, he does, thinking it must be right because people like it 14:21:56 From Art Hunter to Sarah(Direct Message) : If you have a question, send a note to ;your mother. 14:25:03 From Jeff Passmore to Everyone : One thing that won't work is if "Progressives" tell the far right that they, the Progressives, know what's best. So the dialogue will be difficult, but it will need to be a dialogue, not a lecture. 14:26:25 From Sucha Mann to Everyone : In the Energy design and polices I taught at uCarleton, the EV cars will cost same as ICE cars by 2023 - in 3 years. Thus, Albertans need to be educated to diverse their employment. Canada needs to bring back manufacting, and protect some some manufacturing for indigenious (like Winter Shoes, jackets..) just like we protect Egg, Dairy farmers 14:29:55 From Edward MANNING to Everyone : This is not unique in the world. 14:30:56 From Edward MANNING to Everyone : Many nations have tenstion between heartland and hinterland partiuulcrly in times of decline. History is instructive re actual outcomes. 14:36:43 From jon legg to Everyone : Ruben, 14:39:17 From jon legg to Everyone : Are there many Albertans who see the situation as necessary to reduce GHGases., so how does Alta go about dealing with this need? (Poor grammar; sorry). 14:39:21 From Edward MANNING to Everyone : Joe Ingram's article is on the CACOR website. 14:40:08 From jon legg to Everyone : Jon Legg 14:41:45 From jon legg to Everyone : (For "Alta", please read Albertans) Jon 14:41:52 From jon legg to Everyone : Thanks, Jean. 14:43:40 From Art Hunter to Everyone : Ingram posting on our site 14:43:41 From Art Hunter to Everyone : https://canadiancor.com/canadian-energy-security-in-an-age-of-existential-threat/ 14:55:09 From G V Buxton to Everyone : Vic has a questiion 15:01:11 From Art Hunter to Jean Dougherty(Direct Message) : We can let Vic ask his question then I will stop the recording. OK? 15:02:56 From Zachary Jacobson to Everyone : question 15:03:17 From Jean Dougherty to Art Hunter(Direct Message) : Bob Walker is next. Jeff passmore also has one lined up. 15:03:50 From Art Hunter to Jean Dougherty(Direct Message) : OK, bob then Jeff then we are well past our 90 minutes 15:09:27 From Zachary Jacobson to Everyone : can you name 1? 2? good citizen companies in the oilpatch? 15:18:02 From Ted Manning to Everyone : One of the emerging contributions from the Club of Rome is to see if it is possible to focus on wellbeing rather than just monetary value. This is an uphill challenge because the "system" is addicted to nearly only monetary indicators . 15:19:13 From John Meyer to Everyone : Ted, Biophysical economics is a good start and lead in to addressing well-being and getting off the GDP race to the bottom. 15:22:05 From Ted Manning to Everyone : For several decades we have worked on a range of ecological sociological, economic etc indicators and had some success in the UN SDG goals with application of a suite of indicators ranged against all the 17 SDGs - and being used. This may be helping.